Saludos a nuestros hermanos y nuestras hermanas en Cristo del presbiterio Estoreño:
Ese mes tenemos nieve en Louisville y hay nieve en muchas otros lugares en los Estados Unidos. También ese mes muchas personas de nuestra iglesia continuamos enseñando Ingles a personas quienes no hablan Ingles bien (incluyendo muchos Guatemaltecos y muchas Guatemaltecas) y preparamos las cenas para los estudiantes y los maestros y las maestras o jugamos con los hijos y las hijas de los estudiantes. También este mes otras personas de nuestra iglesia participamos en un clase de Español. La maestra es Ada, quien fue con el grupo al Estor en 2007. Otras personas de nuestra iglesia estudiamos, en Ingles y Español, el compañerismo y el ecumenismo en la biblia y un libro sobre compañerismo. Ese mes vamos a tener un culto especial en Miercelos de ceniza y vamos a tener otros cultos especiales antes del dia de Pascua de resurreccion.
En Diciembre la esposa de Benjamin comenzó a trabajar otra vez. Gracias a Dios, Shannon esta ben, después de que estaba muy enferma. Shannon trabaja para la iglesia Presbiteriana nacional en Los Estados Unidos, o sea para PCUSA. Muchas gracias a Ustedes por sus oraciones para Shannon.
Unas personas en nuestra iglesia – y muchas otras personas en la comunidad - no tienen trabajo. Otras personas creen que talves vamos a no tener trabajo en el futuro. Pueden Ustedes orar para esas personas? Creemos que hay muchas personas en Guatemala sin trabajo también.
En un sábado reciente Pastor Gerardo y nosotros hablamos sobre unas ideas para un viaje por un grupo de unas personas de nuestra iglesia y un viaje por un grupo de unas personas de su presbiterio. Imaginamos que cada grupo incluye unos pastores y pastoras, unos ancianos, unos diáconos, unas mujeres, y unos jóvenes y unas jovencitas (incluyendo por lo menos dos ancianos o diáconos, dos mujeres (de su presbiterial), y dos jóvenes), 10 o 12 en total en cada grupo.
Nuestra idea es que esos grupos queden en Cobán y que se hospeden en el Centro Nazareno en Cobán. Imaginamos que estudiamos la biblia juntos, que hablamos sobre las ideas para al compañerismo juntos, que caminamos juntos por los calles de Cobán y hablamos con unas personas sobre la historia de Cobán, y también sobre la cultura Q’eqchi’, y la religión del área (incluyendo la pastora Delia Leal, una pastora quien predico en nuestra iglesia en Septiembre pasado).
Imaginamos que viajamos juntos a unos lugares cerca de Cobán. Es posible que viajamos juntos al Museo Príncipe Maya en Cobán, a la Finca Santa Margarita, y a Semuc Champey. Y nos comunicaremos con Rogelio Marriott. Rogelio y su esposa, Gloria, misioneros de PCUSA quien viven en Cobán. Rogelio espera que nosotros y Ustedes vayamos a visitar a la escuela La Patria. Hablamos con Pastor Gerardo, y espera que tengamos un culto en la escuela con unos Presbiterianos quienes viven en el área cerca de Cobán (posiblemente cerca a la escuela también).
El tiempo óptimo para Rogelio y para nosotros es un viaje en la tercera semana de Julio. Es posible que nosotros y Ustedes nos quedemos en Cobán, Tal ves el Sábado 10 Julio, o Domingo 11 Julio, y nos quedemos allí hasta martes o miércoles o jueves. Están ustedes interesados en la idea de una reunión y viaje a Cobán? Es posible que un grupo de pastores, ancianos, diáconos, mujeres, y jóvenes y señoritas del presbiterio Estoreño puedan viajar a Cobán en 10 Julio o 11 Julio? Quisieran Ustedes visitar Cobán con nosotros?
Rogelio también organiza una reunión en Abril con otros Presbiterianos Norteamericanos de Tennessee y de otros lugares, Q’eqchi’ pastores y ancianos de muchos lugares en Guatemala, y unas personas de la iglesia nacional en Guatemala (IENPG) sobre la posibilidad de educación teológica avanzada en Q’eqchi’ para pastores. Es posible que una persona o dos personas de nuestra iglesia vayan a ir a esa reunión. La reunión también va a ser en Cobán en Centro Nazareno, pero va a ser en las fechas de Abril 20-27. Es posible que nosotros y Ustedes van a comunicar sobre esa reunión en el futuro. Nosotros estamos interesados en la educación teológica incluso si no podemos mandar personas a la reunión en Abril. Por el teléfono, Pastor Gerardo indica que el sabe sobre la reunión. Están Ustedes interesados sobre esta reunión y sobre la educación teológica de sus pastores?
Por el teléfono hablando con el Pastor Gerardo, nosotros también pedimos que Ustedes intenten proporcionarnos a nosotros con la letra en Q’eqchi’ para el himno “Cuan Grande Eres Tu.” En Marzo 2009, Pastor Mario en la iglesia en San Jorge canto ese himno – en Q’eqhchi, así nosotros creemos. La iglesia Presbiteriana nacional en los Estados Unidos (PCUSA) esta ahora preparando un libro de himnos y quisiéramos que Ustedes nos presenten el himno en Q’eqchi’ para la posibilidad de dicho libro.
Gracias para su atención con la carta larga. Bendiciones de Dios para sus ministerios y sus familias en esta primavera. Esperamos que unas personas de nuestra iglesia vayan a poder mirar algunas personas de Ustedes en Julio o en Abril o ambos oportunidades.
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
February 6 gathering
- Call down to Guatemala.
- Ellen Dozier has been on three trips to Guatemala.
- Dates: July 10th-17th,
- Might spend two-three days elsewhere.
- Coban is a tourist place, with rough terrain.
- Nazarene center.
- Worship time in Coban to meet at Nazarene church for Guatemalan’s and all of us to meet.
- June 1st: PC(USA) deadline for hymnal submissions. K’ekchi song, Amazing Grace?
- Western Highlands food shortages.
- Ellen D. comes back February 23rd.
- Must plan a fundraiser and go to session.
- Martha, Stephanie, and Carlos are all part of the planning for the trip to Guatemala.
- EFL classes.
- Sunday school class.
- Thursday February 18th Gerardo has a meeting with a women’s group.
- Translate from English to K’ekchi- Book of Order.
- Study guide for leadership.
- Gerardo’s job is overwhelming and there just isn’t enough people to do all the church work.
- [Saturday] March 6th- Next meeting time and number of people going [9:30 a.m. at Soni’s].
- Planning for the trip occurs Wednesday February 17th.
-- Sara
Thursday, February 4, 2010
Wait and see
Check the blog and Facebook and call us (at 384-4339) if you’re unsure if we’re going ahead and meeting Saturday morning in the snow. We’ll also try calling everyone who was there Sunday afternoon or who has told us they hope to be at the 9:30 a.m. Saturday meeting (at 3928 Kennison Avenue, sort of behind Heine Brothers on Chenoweth Lane in St. Matthews), if we decide to cancel/postpone the gathering. Hopefully, we'll be able to go ahead. Runners – like Eva and Ben – it’s possible that the snow will snow out your event, but not ours. In that case, I hope you’ll join us. It's also remotely possible that Ellen will be able to join us from Guatemala vis Skype (before she hits the road for Guatemala City). And we'll hope to see our pastor, Jane, fresh from the slopes (or wherever) in Colorado! (And our apologies to Mid-Kentucky Presbytery Leader Development Day.)
-- Perry
Trip news
We’ve heard this week from Roger Marriott, part of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) mission co-worker couple in Coban. Roger confirmed their interest in working with us and our partners for a Coban visit. He mentioned the possibility of us staying at the Nazarene center, and said he would check on its availability. He also mentioned the possibility of going to the waterfall area.
On two issues he was interested in taking us in different directions. Although we thought he would promote working with the Guatemalan evangelical Presbyterian-PC(USA) vehicle PRESGOV for transportation, he said he could arrange for shuttle service from the airport to Coban and back. He said it would take about five hours (and he seemed to think we would do all that traveling in one day). We may need to stay the last night closer to the airport, and that may put us in the vicinity to see other places, like going back to Antigua.
After Sunday’s meeting, we told Roger we were thinking about any one of the final three weeks of July, although in fact we had considered most seriously the fourth or fifth week. Roger and Gloria’s oldest child is getting married in late July now, and Roger asked that we focus on the third week, which is July 11-July 17. It may be pushing for folks are going for all of the PC(USA) General Assembly in Minneapolis to make it to this (and in fact PRESGOV’s 15-person van is already taken for that week). But if our partners OK this week, I think we should go for it. It would be three years and two weeks after our summer 2007 trip to El Estor and Antigua.
Delia Leal, the Nazarene pastor who also lives in Coban, also let us know that she would be interested in connecting with us while we are in her town, and she wanted to work out details later.
I suspect we’ll talk more about the dates, etc. briefly before calling Pastor Gerardo. We may also want to write an e-mail text for our partners not only putting our trip ideas in writing for all of them but also updating them on goings on here (including the English as a foreign language teaching ministry, Spanish class, partnership Sunday school class, etc.). And we may want to turn over logistical details of the trip to a small planning team and work with them to plan a more public congregational event at which we could present ideas for the trip (including for prospects) and develop fund-raising ideas also. Eventually, we’ll want to present plans to Outreach Council and session too, and seek the latter’s OK.
-- Perry
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
Spring schedule
Guatemala mission partnership task force gatherings:
9:30 a.m., Saturday, February 6, 2010 – at Stephanie Gregory and Perry Chang’s house at 3928 Kennison Avenue
9:30 a.m., Saturday, March 6, 2010 – place TBA
9:30 a.m., Saturday, April 3, 2010 – place TBA
9:30 a.m., Saturday, May 8 – place TBA
9:30 a.m., Saturday, June 5 – place TBA
9:30 a.m., Saturday, February 6, 2010 – at Stephanie Gregory and Perry Chang’s house at 3928 Kennison Avenue
9:30 a.m., Saturday, March 6, 2010 – place TBA
9:30 a.m., Saturday, April 3, 2010 – place TBA
9:30 a.m., Saturday, May 8 – place TBA
9:30 a.m., Saturday, June 5 – place TBA
February prayer list
Crescent Hill folks will pray in February for the following Estoreño Presbytery partners:
- On Sunday, February 7, and the week that follows: the presbytery’s youth and young adult organization and the organization’s president, Armando Chub.
- On Sunday, February 14, and the week that follows: Peniel church, Pastor Fidel Juc and spouse Jesus, and its members, deacons, and elders.
- On Sunday, February 21, and the week that follows: Familia de Noe church, Pastor Benjamin Sacul Tiul and spouse Carlotta, and its members, deacons, and elders.
- On Sunday, February 28, and the week that follows: San Jorge church, Pastor Marco Xo Ical, and its members, deacons, and elders.
- On Sunday, February 7, and the week that follows: the presbytery’s youth and young adult organization and the organization’s president, Armando Chub.
- On Sunday, February 14, and the week that follows: Peniel church, Pastor Fidel Juc and spouse Jesus, and its members, deacons, and elders.
- On Sunday, February 21, and the week that follows: Familia de Noe church, Pastor Benjamin Sacul Tiul and spouse Carlotta, and its members, deacons, and elders.
- On Sunday, February 28, and the week that follows: San Jorge church, Pastor Marco Xo Ical, and its members, deacons, and elders.
After church
The meeting was held at church after worship after being cancelled the day before due to snow. Those present shared prayer concerns and Perry opened the meeting at 12:30 p.m. with prayer for those concerns and for the groups and congregations within our partnership that we prayed for today and will pray for in February. Appreciation also was expressed to Nora Lara for the delicious authentic Guatemalan food she prepared for all to share.
History of our partnership – Perry began the meeting with a quick summary including:
- 2007 – First trip to El Estor with 19 adults and youth. PRESGOV and the Lara family helped Perry and Ada to arrange the trip. Travelers stayed at a motel in El Estor.
- 2008 – Stephanie and Ellen went to a retreat center in southern Guatemala for a meeting and met with some of our partners during that time.
- 2009 – Six CHPC members traveled back to El Estor in April and stayed with some of our partner families. During this visit the details of our official partnership were finalized. Ellen and Ben were the primary coordinators of this trip.
Trip possibilities – Perry handed out copies from the CHPC blog with ideas for a trip this year to Guatemala as well as information gathered to date on possible times. Check out other blog entries about this. After further discussion, it appeared that the July dates were more likely. Those present were encouraged to decide about their own participation in the trip as well as to talk to other folks who might be interested in going. There was some discussion about what to do about youth participation in the trip since many of our youth are attending Triennium this year thus could not afford, or have time, for both trips. Some questions arose about possible insurance issues especially in regard to minors. Perry agreed to check on how this was handled on previous trips.
Next meetings - Since we didn’t get to call Pastor Pop today because we forgot to bring his phone number and we need to begin planning this next trip, we agreed to meet this Saturday, Feb. 6, 9:30 am, at the home of Perry Chang and Stephanie Gregory, 3928 Kennison Ave., in St. Matthews. All are encouraged to attend. In case of a snow cancellation, we will email folks, or you can call Perry and Stephanie at 384-4339. We also decided to set a regular meeting time for the task force usually on the 1st Saturday of the month at 9:30 am. The next meetings would be Mar. 6, Apr. 3, May 8 (a week late due to Derby) and June 5. Meeting places to be announced.
-- Soni
History of our partnership – Perry began the meeting with a quick summary including:
- 2007 – First trip to El Estor with 19 adults and youth. PRESGOV and the Lara family helped Perry and Ada to arrange the trip. Travelers stayed at a motel in El Estor.
- 2008 – Stephanie and Ellen went to a retreat center in southern Guatemala for a meeting and met with some of our partners during that time.
- 2009 – Six CHPC members traveled back to El Estor in April and stayed with some of our partner families. During this visit the details of our official partnership were finalized. Ellen and Ben were the primary coordinators of this trip.
Trip possibilities – Perry handed out copies from the CHPC blog with ideas for a trip this year to Guatemala as well as information gathered to date on possible times. Check out other blog entries about this. After further discussion, it appeared that the July dates were more likely. Those present were encouraged to decide about their own participation in the trip as well as to talk to other folks who might be interested in going. There was some discussion about what to do about youth participation in the trip since many of our youth are attending Triennium this year thus could not afford, or have time, for both trips. Some questions arose about possible insurance issues especially in regard to minors. Perry agreed to check on how this was handled on previous trips.
Next meetings - Since we didn’t get to call Pastor Pop today because we forgot to bring his phone number and we need to begin planning this next trip, we agreed to meet this Saturday, Feb. 6, 9:30 am, at the home of Perry Chang and Stephanie Gregory, 3928 Kennison Ave., in St. Matthews. All are encouraged to attend. In case of a snow cancellation, we will email folks, or you can call Perry and Stephanie at 384-4339. We also decided to set a regular meeting time for the task force usually on the 1st Saturday of the month at 9:30 am. The next meetings would be Mar. 6, Apr. 3, May 8 (a week late due to Derby) and June 5. Meeting places to be announced.
-- Soni
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