Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Presidents' Day gathering


Crescent Hill folks interested in the Guatemala partnership will gather at 5:30 p.m. this Monday, February 20 (President's Day) at James Lees Presbyterian Church, at 1741 Frankfort Avenue, at the corner of Frankfort and William Street (entrance on William), one block up the hill from Mellwood Avenue. Discussion topics include a possible spring prayer vigil, summer Guatemala trip, and joint Crescent Hill-Guatemala projects.

Saturday, February 11, 2012

Mid-February gathering notes



Half a dozen Crescent Hill folks interested in the Guatemala partnership gathered Wednesday to talk about possible Guatemala projects, a possible trip, and a possible prayer vigil. Carlos presented his interpretation of the theological education for pastors project that the visitors from Guatemala had proposed to Crescent Hill for possible funding (see “Carlos’ translation of the Estoreño proposal”). Carlos said he and Gerardo had talked, and that the national church had offered some money, which suggested some involvement by the seminary in San Felipe. The proposal from Phil Beisswinger is something different, for pastors from half a dozen or more different Q’eqchi’ presbyteries. Although the training was slated to begin this January (last month), he didn’t believe it had begun, and he didn’t think the schedule was sacrosanct. There was a general discussion about benevolence, transparency, accountability, and partnership – partly with regard to this request and partly with regard to the communications budget the task force had committed the church to provide. Carlos had asked Gerardo by phone whether he thought it made sense for Crescent Hill to send six months of the communications budget at once, to spread the costs of the transfer fee over more money, and Gerardo’s cryptic response suggested that that should be done only with an abundance of caution on both sides. Perry agreed to try harder to find a more affordable transmission path.


The group also discussed how providing the presbytery with education money might permit not only better e-mail communication but also possible audio and visual communication, so that Carlos, or Doug or others, might be able to make a presentation to an Estoreño group, or vice versa, with a Guatemalan speaker and a Crescent Hill group.

The group also discussed what kind of other involvement might go along with projects such as the theological education project: knowing more about the curriculum, being apprised of some evaluation, being privy to the budget, and so on.

Carlos called Gerardo briefly. Gerardo was pretty open to different time periods for a possible Crescent Hill trip. Carlos asked Gerardo what they might like us to do, and he mentioned three possibilities: (1) relay some information or interpretation about the history of the PC(USA); (2) a joint project something like the concrete floor construction in the homes (during Crescent Hill’s first Izabal visit) but focused on the church in Esperanza (Pastor Mario’s church with the open-air building and very loud worship service when a Crescent Hill mission team last visited El Estor); and (3) (after some prompting from Carlos) worship opportunities with some folks active in presbytery-wide organizations such as the youth and young adult organizations and the women’s organization. The Crescent Hill group also discussed the possibility of being personally involved during time there in another installment of the theological training of pastors – or covering some material covered in the training for pastors with the youth and young adults or the women.




Perry repeated a suggestion about visiting the churches near Puerto Barrios and Livingston. Not discussed explicitly were the possibility of youth and young adults being part of the Crescent Hill mission team, or staying in a hotel vs. staying in homes issues discussed at the late January gathering.

Gerardo said the presbytery will have a presbytery in early March, and he may have implied that there would be more time to talk about preferences for a possible visit at that time.

Gerardo said he finally received his luggage and his health is improving. He also said it has been raining a lot in Izabal and that El Estor has a new mayor, who is of the same party as the country’s new president.

After the phone call, the group discussed a possible prayer vigil, along the lines of the two of three past vigils, these both in the sanctuary. After some discussion, the group targeted Saturday, March 24 for a vigil in the sanctuary. The group agreed to seek the support and involvement of the CHPC Worship and Outreach councils for a vigil that would celebrate and lift up for prayer a variety of local, domestic, and international Crescent Hill mission partners and foci of mission involvement, from United Crescent Hill Ministries, to Estoreño Presbytery, and a number of other things in between. The group agreed to check in with the two Councils later that evening and to announce to all gathered before the Council meetings that folks interested would meet at 5:30 p.m. next Thursday, February 16, at Andrea’s house, to plan the vigil.

The group also scheduled another gathering of folks interested in the Guatemala partnership, partly with an eye towards this possible summer trip, for 5:30 p.m. Monday, February 20, again at James Lees. There was a little discussion about whether to move to a second-floor room.

Between gatherings Perry had circulated these and other possible trip dates: Saturday, July 7 - Sunday, July 15; Saturday, July 15 - Sunday, July 22; Saturday, July 21 - Sunday, July 29; Saturday, July 28 - Sunday, August 5 (although the trip might actually start on Friday). Perry reported there has been little feedback (a debate about July 28-August 5 – one person liked it; one person didn’t; and one person didn’t like July 7-July 15), but those at the gathering suggested that was because many don’t yet have strong preferences among these dates. Perry will be checking with possible youth mission team members and their parents regarding timing issues for them.

One other thing the group didn't talk about Wednesday was a possible after-Sunday worship lunch thing with people interested in hearing a little more about a possible trip. Outreach and Session would need to hear about the trip idea either way.

-Perry

Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Carlos' translation of Estoreño request

Project of Pastoral Theology

Estoreño Q’eqchi’ Presbytery

Length: 2012 Year

Goals: Self Development for Ministers growing on the knowledge of the Gospel

General objective: Go deep on the knowledge of the Kingdom of God

Specific objective: 15 pastors: 4 new pastors 2 preachers, 6 licensed, and 3 sxperienced pastors renew studies

Justification: 8 years they have not had any training

Activities: 6 workshops

Budget:
Local contribution: 18,150 quetzales
Request: 19,250 quetzales ($1,227)
Estimated: 37,675 quetzales

Friday, February 3, 2012

February prayers

This month Crescent Hill church will pray with and for our Guatemalan partners:

- On Sunday, February 5, and the week thereafter: Altar de Noe church in El Estor’s Los Cerritos neighborhood, Pastor Raul Contreras Tut and family, and members, deacons, and elders.

- On Sunday, February 12, and the week thereafter: Espiritu Santo church in El Estor’s San Marcos neighborhood, Pastor José Domingo Xo Ical and family, and members, deacons, and elders.

- On Sunday, February 19, and the week thereafter: Monte Sinai church in the village of San Carlos El Pouvenir outside of Puerto Barrios, Pastor José Sub and family, and members, deacons, and elders.

- On Sunday, February 26, and the week thereafter: Hijo del Dios Viviente church in the village of La Guitarra outside of Livingston, Pastor Fidel Juc and family, and members, deacons, and elders

- On Sunday, March 4, and during the week thereafter: El Buen Samaritano church in El Estor’s Nuevo Amanacer neighborhood, and members, deacons, and elders.

Monday, January 30, 2012

February gathering

Crescent Hill folks interested in the church's partnership with the Estoreño Presbytery in Guatemala will gather at 5:30 p.m., Wednesday, February 8, at the old James Lees Presbyterian Church at the corner of William Street and Frankfort Avenue (1741 Frankfort Avenue), a block from Mellwood (the entrance is on William Street). A possible prayer vigils and Guatemala trip will be discussed. Everyone is welcome.

Saturday, January 28, 2012

January gathering notes



Follow-up to the late 2011 visit by Estoreño Presbytery partners, response to Estoreño Presbytery requests, and a possible summer 2012 intergenerational mission trip to Guatemala were all topics of discussion at a Monday, January 23 Guatemala mission task force gathering at the old James Lees Presbyterian Church. The group shared more feedback they’d heard after the visit, including a range of enthusiasm about the partnership (including from those who are also very enthusiastic about local mission), from other Crescent Hill folks. Folks there highlighted the interest and enthusiasm shown in the turnout for the lunch and discussion after Sunday worship and the good-bye dinner at El Tarasco restaurant and the intense feeling of the Presbyterian Women event. They also talked about the importance of continuing the dialogue with other Crescent Hill folks, including via newsletter articles, Food for Thought lunches, and Minute for Mission talks. Carlos reported that Gerardo had reported a month ago that, although he was sick after the trip, he had finally obtained the suitcase he had checked on the plane flight back.

The group also talked about the range of requests that Estoreño visitors had communicated to Crescent Hill during the visit, and they shared the written versions of a theological education proposal they had brought with them and a list of other proposals Ramiro had drafted on the spot during one of the partnership discussions. The group blew hot and cold about being involved in the Q’eqchi’ theological education initiative and the supply of Q’eqhchi’ Bibles to women in the presbytery, which were two of the ideas discussed during the visit. The group resolved to send $300 – which would represent six months of a $50 a month communication budget – via the existing funds transfer mechanism, after three things had occurred: (1) talk with Pastor Gerardo to let him know the money was coming; (2) check in the PC(USA) World Mission to verify whether a 10 percent tithe for mission contributions (or any funds transfer?) was go to the IENPG, and how; and (3) make it clear to Gerardo and other presbytery folks that at very least the $50 a month should result in an e-mail connection between the two groups, and they should let us know as soon as that is up and running. Jane also reminded folks that the group had asked the visitors to produce some receipts for the visit-related expenses Crescent Hill had reimbursed.

The group talked about a possible Guatemala mission trip dates. In addition to talking about how we ought to clarify for ourselves and others the purpose of the partnership and of a possible trip, we talked about possible trip dates. The Presbyterian Church’s General Assembly meeting is the first week of July, and Crescent Hill is targeting late June as possible international Eastern Kentucky mission trip, and this trip would partly involved middle school youth. At some point in July seemed to be the most popular option. After the meeting Perry mentioned that the Mid-Kentucky Presbytery executive and possibly others from congregations the Estoreño Presbytery mission team visited might be interested. Perry warned that August might be out for 15 or older senior high youth, whom a Guatemala trip might include, as well as for K-12 educators, Claudia added. Perry pitched for visiting outlying churches this time, and Jane mentioned that an extended stay in homes – longer than the two nights a CHPC mission team did three years ago – might be too much for many Crescent Hill people.

The group talked about gathering next – again at 5:30 p.m. on Monday at James Lees – on February 6.

After the meeting Pastor Jane raised the possibility of a prayer vigil (which would be the fourth the Guatemala group has sponsored) with stations for various local mission partners, Estoreño Presbytery, friends around the state, mission workers we support, and others) (possibly after Easter?). The group had also talked during the gathering about possible shared/parallel Bible study – possibly involving more than just the Spanish-language/bilingual Sunday school class on our end – also possibly after Easter.


- Perry

Thursday, January 26, 2012